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		<title>By: Kfir Pravda</title>
		<link>http://pravdam.com/2007/08/20/can-someone-please-create-the-hbo-of-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kfir Pravda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - yep, amazing how things changed in a year...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; yep, amazing how things changed in a year&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Homer</title>
		<link>http://pravdam.com/2007/08/20/can-someone-please-create-the-hbo-of-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1639</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to follow this up considering a year and 2 weeks after you wrote this HBO hired Nalts and Michael Buckley to make this kind of high quality original online content. Good call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to follow this up considering a year and 2 weeks after you wrote this HBO hired Nalts and Michael Buckley to make this kind of high quality original online content. Good call.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Om Malik Opens NTV Station - The Best of Web Video, Facing Challenges &#171; Pravda on Media, Technology, and Rebel Filmmaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] am a big fan of sites trying to make some sense of all the videos out there. In a past, I wrote a hotly debated post where I asked when would someone create an online HBO equivalent, and gang all the best video shows [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] am a big fan of sites trying to make some sense of all the videos out there. In a past, I wrote a hotly debated post where I asked when would someone create an online HBO equivalent, and gang all the best video shows [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GRDGF &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HBO of Online Video?</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRDGF &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HBO of Online Video?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is a great conversation going on over at Kfir Pravda&#8217;s blog in response to the question &#8220;Can Someone Please Create The HBO Of Online Video?&#8221; My [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Now Playing: We Need Girlfriends / Fast Forward - FWD:labs</title>
		<link>http://pravdam.com/2007/08/20/can-someone-please-create-the-hbo-of-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1626</link>
		<dc:creator>Now Playing: We Need Girlfriends / Fast Forward - FWD:labs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;The HBO of online video&#8230; Amazing.&#8221; &#8212; Media, Technology and Rebel Filmmaking [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kfir Pravda</title>
		<link>http://pravdam.com/2007/08/20/can-someone-please-create-the-hbo-of-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1623</link>
		<dc:creator>Kfir Pravda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, yes, technology is usually faster than legalization. The main question - will we have an indie quality content arena?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, yes, technology is usually faster than legalization. The main question &#8211; will we have an indie quality content arena?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Burg</title>
		<link>http://pravdam.com/2007/08/20/can-someone-please-create-the-hbo-of-online-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Burg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 21:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is already lots of great content streaming illegally over at ovguide and joost.  However, due to dated (and sometimes not so dated) distribution agreements with foreign syndicates and itellectual property ownership issues (HBO and other premium networks may or may not own all of their own shows, often they only own the domestic broadcast rights) these shows will not be streamed to Israel anytime soon.



When I was over in Beit Shemesh a few months back I suddenly found that many of the network sites I had frequented for industry reasons no longer allowed video streaming.  It&#039;s not only a major annoyance, but contrary to the very nature of the web we have created.



HBO and others have strong ties to their distribution partners (cable and satellite companies).  Online distribution of this content would require significant restructuring on their part.  This isn&#039;t something they need to do today, but it&#039;s something they should be doing by tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is already lots of great content streaming illegally over at ovguide and joost.  However, due to dated (and sometimes not so dated) distribution agreements with foreign syndicates and itellectual property ownership issues (HBO and other premium networks may or may not own all of their own shows, often they only own the domestic broadcast rights) these shows will not be streamed to Israel anytime soon.</p>
<p>When I was over in Beit Shemesh a few months back I suddenly found that many of the network sites I had frequented for industry reasons no longer allowed video streaming.  It&#8217;s not only a major annoyance, but contrary to the very nature of the web we have created.</p>
<p>HBO and others have strong ties to their distribution partners (cable and satellite companies).  Online distribution of this content would require significant restructuring on their part.  This isn&#8217;t something they need to do today, but it&#8217;s something they should be doing by tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,



That sentiment I can definitely get behind, as some might argue that we pay out in not only our time, but our sanity.  :)



Matthew</description>
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<p>That sentiment I can definitely get behind, as some might argue that we pay out in not only our time, but our sanity.  <img src='http://pravdam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: Jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think &#039;the HBO of Online Video&#039; refers to a device that separates the wheat from the chaff as Eric seems to suggest of Blip.tv.  HBO produces and procures quality content for its community of subscribers.  In a world with infinite channels, we&#039;ve seen the emergence of countless niche HBO&#039;s which create quality content that appeals to much narrower markets, but there aren&#039;t enough eyeballs yet to substantiate the production values that we see on HBO.



I tend to think that the aggregate of community ratings from a platform-agnostic source serves as the purest indicator of quality.



Also, as an audience member, I find persistent self-promotion unappealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8216;the HBO of Online Video&#8217; refers to a device that separates the wheat from the chaff as Eric seems to suggest of Blip.tv.  HBO produces and procures quality content for its community of subscribers.  In a world with infinite channels, we&#8217;ve seen the emergence of countless niche HBO&#8217;s which create quality content that appeals to much narrower markets, but there aren&#8217;t enough eyeballs yet to substantiate the production values that we see on HBO.</p>
<p>I tend to think that the aggregate of community ratings from a platform-agnostic source serves as the purest indicator of quality.</p>
<p>Also, as an audience member, I find persistent self-promotion unappealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Cammack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Cammack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Matt. :)



I think your g14productions crew does good work, and I&#039;m always intrigued when I find out that you did something new.



As far as &quot;no budget&quot;, what that means is that you and your crew are VOLUNTEERING your time, and as the saying goes, time = money... So you DO have a budget.  You&#039;re paying yourselves to do what you love to do, which is pre-produce, produce and post-produce.



Same thing as when Justin announced the weekly budget for STBD.  The show doesn&#039;t actually get done for that low amount of money.  It gets done for that low amount of money PLUS the in-kind donations of TIME that the people involved give to the project because they love what they do and want to put on a good show.



You bring up an interesting philosophical idea: &quot;Do it for the love&quot;.  I don&#039;t know how easy it is to put together a crew of talented people that are all willing to &quot;do it for the love&quot; on ONE show.... much less a &quot;network&#039;s worth&quot;.



My point isn&#039;t about people that love to do what they do. :)  My point is about attracting talented people to a project that are trying, as neovids said, to work on &quot;real&quot; shows without losing their shirts.  Even if you put together a team that as you say &quot;does it for free, because it lets them do stuff they love&quot;, that means they have to take time out from concentrating on their new-HBO show in order to go &#039;pay the rent&#039;.  Imagine how much better a weekly internet show would be... any show... if the ~8hours/day spent getting money were focused on tweaking scripts or shooting coverage or 40 extra hours per week on editing?



Ben has another good point in his recent reply.  People have no idea how long it takes to do things like an audio mix for even a 5-minute video.  Forget about color correction, so that someone&#039;s shirt isn&#039;t red in one scene and pink in the next scene because of different camera placement /lighting.  Those elements aid immersion and bolster the feeling of &quot;quality&quot; in a production.  By decreasing the budget on a production, perhaps all the way to $0, something&#039;s got to give.



On the other hand, you have the Lonelygirl15 crew, which created apparently compelling internet content with a static webcam-looking shot of a bedroom. :)  One could argue that THAT was a quality presentation, and throw out the idea of budget altogether. :)  However, the song remains the same... If someone&#039;s not paying them, they&#039;re paying themselves with in-kind donations of time, so there&#039;s no such thing as &quot;no budget&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Matt. <img src='http://pravdam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think your g14productions crew does good work, and I&#8217;m always intrigued when I find out that you did something new.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;no budget&#8221;, what that means is that you and your crew are VOLUNTEERING your time, and as the saying goes, time = money&#8230; So you DO have a budget.  You&#8217;re paying yourselves to do what you love to do, which is pre-produce, produce and post-produce.</p>
<p>Same thing as when Justin announced the weekly budget for STBD.  The show doesn&#8217;t actually get done for that low amount of money.  It gets done for that low amount of money PLUS the in-kind donations of TIME that the people involved give to the project because they love what they do and want to put on a good show.</p>
<p>You bring up an interesting philosophical idea: &#8220;Do it for the love&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t know how easy it is to put together a crew of talented people that are all willing to &#8220;do it for the love&#8221; on ONE show&#8230;. much less a &#8220;network&#8217;s worth&#8221;.</p>
<p>My point isn&#8217;t about people that love to do what they do. <img src='http://pravdam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   My point is about attracting talented people to a project that are trying, as neovids said, to work on &#8220;real&#8221; shows without losing their shirts.  Even if you put together a team that as you say &#8220;does it for free, because it lets them do stuff they love&#8221;, that means they have to take time out from concentrating on their new-HBO show in order to go &#8216;pay the rent&#8217;.  Imagine how much better a weekly internet show would be&#8230; any show&#8230; if the ~8hours/day spent getting money were focused on tweaking scripts or shooting coverage or 40 extra hours per week on editing?</p>
<p>Ben has another good point in his recent reply.  People have no idea how long it takes to do things like an audio mix for even a 5-minute video.  Forget about color correction, so that someone&#8217;s shirt isn&#8217;t red in one scene and pink in the next scene because of different camera placement /lighting.  Those elements aid immersion and bolster the feeling of &#8220;quality&#8221; in a production.  By decreasing the budget on a production, perhaps all the way to $0, something&#8217;s got to give.</p>
<p>On the other hand, you have the Lonelygirl15 crew, which created apparently compelling internet content with a static webcam-looking shot of a bedroom. <img src='http://pravdam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   One could argue that THAT was a quality presentation, and throw out the idea of budget altogether. <img src='http://pravdam.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   However, the song remains the same&#8230; If someone&#8217;s not paying them, they&#8217;re paying themselves with in-kind donations of time, so there&#8217;s no such thing as &#8220;no budget&#8221;.</p>
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